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tuikyuo 11 years 6 months ago wrote:
Just wondering, I cant think of many times I use it, especially since there's skills like Storm Gust and fire wall to stop the enemies. Wouldnt maxing Stone Curse be better for woe since they cant be broken out untill stone curse hardens? I'm just wondering how many people think Frost Diver is worth it. And btw I'm going Saftey Wall and Fire Bolt 10 that's why theres not enough points for both Frost Diver and Stone Curse.
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Ruthy 11 years 6 months ago wrote:
I wouldn't know... I don't really have a magey~ just a dancer and rogue... and aco.
Israel 11 years 6 months ago wrote:
theres this card that increases up the maximum damage of Frost Driver.
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Meatball 11 years 6 months ago wrote:
Frost diver is useless. The only thing about it is that it's a pre-requisite for storm gust. If it wasn't a requirement, i wouldn't waste any points on it.
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Kinju 11 years 6 months ago wrote:
Sages, on the other hand, are a different matter and would pretty much appreciate FD if they didn't have Fire Wall or Stone Curse.
IdyotAko 11 years 6 months ago wrote:
FD is useful for leveling purposes, but almost entirely useless in WoE. Most folks during WoE wear Unfrozens so that pretty much throws FD out the window. SC on the other hand is very useful for the simple fact that no one in WoE would use an anti-SC gear. This is because they would much rather get stone cursed than frozen.

If you still feel like you want to get FD, level 5 would be your safest level. But like Meatball said, only get it as a prereq for SG if you're going for a WoE build.
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fuse 11 years 6 months ago wrote:
Frost diver has its limitations, before the nerf very long ago, the freeze change was nearly 100% @ level 10. Since at level 10 it's only 55%, they reduced the chances by 40% for this level.

What does this mean? Before it was overpowered. But now.. I know 55% doesn't sound that hot, but with my Wizard, I went from when I changed to wizard to level 78 in just CT clicking alarms using frostdiver and JT mainly. I would use SG and firewall etc too obviously in mob situations.

It's a matter of preference... just realize @ level 1, you won't get anything out of it as a skill besides prereq (since chances are low it freezes, and it thaws in 5 seconds). There was also word that at somepoint it would affect the freezing duration of SG... but I don't know if it's true.

I can just say I knew almost everything there was to know about wizzies when I played, even the stuff 3 episodes in the future. So value my word however you want to.

IdyotAko 11 years 6 months ago wrote:
FD doesn't affect SG's freeze time... it's SG's level that affects it's freeze time. My wiz only has lv5FD, but max SG... anything frozen by my lv10 SG is frozen a lot longer than my lv5 FD.
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Meatball 11 years 6 months ago wrote:
Okay, here's the problem with maxing FD for wizards:

Frost Diver at level 10 has 75% chance of freezing and also depends on the level difference between you and the other player. Therefore, at most times, freezing would happen by chance and because of this you wouldn't know whether the target wears unfrozen. This is why FD isn't really advisable. Storm Gust level 1 is much better as it gives 100% Freeze chance. Also, if you're thinking that FD is better because of its cast time. Think again, the difference with SG 1 and FD 10 wouldn't be that great, after all, you have high dex don't you? Plus you can max out other wiz/mage skills.

*But hey, i may be wrong, this is just my 2 cents worth*
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fuse 11 years 6 months ago wrote:
Quoted Text IdyotAko said:
FD doesn't affect SG's freeze time... it's SG's level that affects it's freeze time.

Ahem... no. It was a planned change. I don't know if it was ever implemented. That wouldn't make sense that SGs level would affect FDs freeze time; since you aquire the skill before SG. But anyways, maybe the change was never made.

When I first heard about it, it was just like the change made to Meteor Storm and it stunning its targets. But that one actually happened.

Quoted Text Meatball said:
Okay, here's the problem with maxing FD for wizards:

Frost Diver at level 10 has 75% chance of freezing and also depends on the level difference between you and the other player.

I haven't played in a year, so I don't know. But from my experience, I don't agree with the level difference thing. And since when does it have a 75% chance of freezing?! I know a long time ago it had a 95% chance, I had a mage at that time and the skill rocked. I just looked on the skillsim and it says 65% so we're both wrong. But 65%... that's not that much over 50% success...

People are getting too technical with the skills they should choose. This is a skill you get as a MAGE, not a wizard. If you already have all your pre-reqs pounded out, then it doesn't really matter... In my opinion it's still useful, but not near as good as it used to be. Icewall on the other hand had similar horrid nerfs made to it, I had level 10 of it, and it was nerfed. I wouldn't recommend that skill to anyone now, but I would have before, especially for trapping MVPs, which you used to be able to do.

IdyotAko 11 years 6 months ago wrote:
I have to rennig my claim of having only level 5 FD... it's lv 10, so yeah, I dunno if it does affect SG's freeze time or not... >.>

And yeah... Ice Wall still sucks... and will always suck till the end of time.
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Kinju 11 years 6 months ago wrote:
It affects Frost Nova freeze duration but not Storm Gust. SG has a fixed freeze time depending per level.
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