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Israel 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
I dont know if you heard this news guys, there was this man, a south korean student in Virginia Tech who went berserk and randomly shot 30 students inluding a teacher. He used a Glock 9mm pistol as a weapon,and made a record for being the deadliest gunman in these times.

He was a loner and will never respond if you greet him, most of the times he was alone. So the lesson here boys and girls is that, never let a loner own a pistol especially if hes a phsychotic freaked out asian.

Asians are crazy people, believe me coz im an asian too.
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kersheys 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
Not good to make fun of such a situation if this was your intent.


The Virginia shooting was the worst in US history so far. The shooters name is Cho Seung-Hui. A resident alien. He's from South Korea and was a senior in some English course.

Picture:
http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_vatech_cho_070417_sp.jpg

He killed at least 4 teachers, and at least 11 students. 32 are dead, 20+ are injured and at least 3 are in critical condition.

According to the police he used 2 weapons for both shootings, the first killing was in the dorms where 2 students died. 2 hours later, he started shooting in the classrooms. After killing the students and professors, he shot himself in the head. Apparently, a piece of his face was missing.

According to the police he had left behind a note, as well as a receipt for a 9mm handgun. They also say he may have had a romantic interest in a young woman who was found dead after the first shootings.

The note seemed to say "You caused me to do this". According to fellow classmates and English professor, he had written at least 2 violent plays for his course. Both of which are found here and here.

Here is a link to a page that lists the victims and their myspaces as their names are released to public.



More sources here and here.
Quoted Text Kinju said:
And K.H.A.W.D.? Meh! Hardly even a bother.
kalajel 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
Yeah, killings like this one are no laughing matters!

In a way, I think it's a good thing Runagi left; she would've been pissed by your post Izzy… And I wouldn't blame her…

The problem here is not loners; we, as a society, have a big problem when people feel the only solution to their problems is to buy a gun and start shooting other people. We need to take a look at our society and try to find what the hell is wrong with it. But of course, it won't be so; people will start pointing finger and find scapegoats to avoid their own responsabilities, and again this will all be blamed on violence in movies and video games…
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Israel 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
Cmon guys, i wasnt making fun at this one, i just posted it in that manner because i dont wanna be posting morbid stuffs or something like that. In other words, i just posted it in a child friendly way, i just wnt to be positive. youve misnterpret me again.Annoyed

Its true kalajel , one of the major factor is the society hes in, what would you feel if your a brown skinned guy, just 5 feet short, brown eyed, eye glass wearing black haired dude in society where poeple judge you on how you look and talk, and not to forget this dude is a korean, so he must be talking funny english in that school. You would really feel that youre all alone, and the way this dude looks, he must be a nerd or something. Correct me if im wrong, people in the state descriminates this kind of people, i mean like " stay away from him coz hes a nerd" (thats what i always see in american high school tv series).

The funny thing here is that, how on earth did he able to sneak that gun inWhat? arent there any security guards in the school? I mean its in the US so that means that they are very strict when it comes to security measures. Here in the Philippines, if theres a person who goes berserk, the only weapon he could carry would be a bolo ( in some country its called machete). No one can afford a gun here, not even a cop.

I smell something fishy here, i just read that he killed 2 studednts. Gun shots would be heard right?. Police would respond,wasnt there any peace talksWhat? People thought that the gunman fled the area after the shooting and after 2 hrs he starts to shoot people again and killed 30 students and injured a lot. Didnt the school let the stundents return to their homes or make them go to somewhere safer after the 2 gunshots?, or did they just resumed the classes?

And im just wondering, why is it that this kind of cases usually happens in US schoolsWhat? what the heck are they teaching? go kill somone if your depressed? I just cant imagine it. Its really quite different in Japan, if ur depressed or something, people there would like jump off the building and never would think involving someone just because they want to end their life.

And is it written in the US constitution that evryone has the freedom to carry a gun? I mean, just imagine how easy it was for him to purchase a deadly weapon?
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kersheys 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
Time for some major quotage. EXPECT WALL OF TEXTS.

Quoted Text Israel said:
Cmon guys, i wasnt making fun at this one, i just posted it in that manner because i dont wanna be posting morbid stuffs or something like that. In other words, i just posted it in a child friendly way, i just wnt to be positive. youve misnterpret me again.

Regardless, some things are just not meant to be like that. Also, this is the internet. Everything can be easily misunderstood which is why most intelligent people mind how they phrase their words.

Quoted Text Israel said:
Its true kalajel , one of the major factor is the society hes in, what would you feel if your a brown skinned guy, just 5 feet short, brown eyed, eye glass wearing black haired dude in society where poeple judge you on how you look and talk, and not to forget this dude is a korean, so he must be talking funny english in that school. You would really feel that youre all alone, and the way this dude looks, he must be a nerd or something. Correct me if im wrong, people in the state descriminates this kind of people, i mean like " stay away from him coz hes a nerd" (thats what i always see in american high school tv series).

Never believe the TV. Neither should you assume how their university society works, nor assume how he acts without even knowing him personally or you will be just as bad as those racists going around the world.

Quoted Text Israel said:
The funny thing here is that, how on earth did he able to sneak that gun inWhat? arent there any security guards in the school? I mean its in the US so that means that they are very strict when it comes to security measures. Here in the Philippines, if theres a person who goes berserk, the only weapon he could carry would be a bolo ( in some country its called machete). No one can afford a gun here, not even a cop.

Considering their school is a University, I would doubt they have the manpower to strip-search every student that passes the gates. Concerning the bolo, its because half the people who go "berserk" can either only afford the bolo and is not of age or does not have enough money to buy it whether legally or not. The other half that is more powerful, uses other people instead of doing the dirty work themselves.

Quoted Text Israel said:
I smell something fishy here, i just read that he killed 2 studednts. Gun shots would be heard right?. Police would respond,wasnt there any peace talksWhat? People thought that the gunman fled the area after the shooting and after 2 hrs he starts to shoot people again and killed 30 students and injured a lot. Didnt the school let the stundents return to their homes or make them go to somewhere safer after the 2 gunshots?, or did they just resumed the classes?

If you read/listened to the news, the first email concerning the first shooting was sent out long after both shootings were over. I would also assume that the police would shoot first, ask later considering two people were already dead and who knows how many others? Because the first shooting happened in the dorm, I assume that there were very few people there as the others may have been in classes or in other areas on the large campus.

Quoted Text Israel said:
And im just wondering, why is it that this kind of cases usually happens in US schoolsWhat? what the heck are they teaching? go kill somone if your depressed? I just cant imagine it. Its really quite different in Japan, if ur depressed or something, people there would like jump off the building and never would think involving someone just because they want to end their life.

Remember that Asians (especially the Filipinos) are noted for close family ties. If you notice, Americans almost always leave their elders in Retirement Homes and almost always forget about them. I am not being a racist, nor anti-Americans but this is simply what I've observed. Compared to us, a lot of families in the US are actually very distanced from each other thus leading to "loners" aka people who don't have others to "have a shoulder to lean on".

Quoted Text Israel said:
And is it written in the US constitution that evryone has the freedom to carry a gun? I mean, just imagine how easy it was for him to purchase a deadly weapon?

Everyone has the freedom because it is used by people for safety, defense, and etc. It is not exactly a killing tool as many people say. It depends on how you use it. That makes a large difference. I don't know much about the US constitution but generally the requirements are that you must be of legal age, usually 18 or 21 (Cho was 23). As long as he did the applications, papers, and all other qualifications, yes I would assume it would be easy for him to acquire a gun since they don't exactly ask "Will you use it to kill people?". The freedom to carry a gun is based on the faith that it will be used for good and nothing more.
Quoted Text Kinju said:
And K.H.A.W.D.? Meh! Hardly even a bother.
fuse 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
What's happened at Virginia Tech is truly tragic. What did that guy prove by killing all of those people? He's angry, he's a loner, and we need to start caring how he feelsWhat?

My God. Schools are becoming a target for terrorists. What's next hospitals? Shoot up everyone in the hospital because you're having a bad day?

I read some of the plays Fiducia linked to, and from what I read his morbid demeanor wasn't any tell-tale sign of what was to come. However, there were come buried clues inside. Violence, especially filled with violence without right cause... this guy was disturbed. I don't think anyone would have been able to help him because his sense of reality was very screwed up to begin with. I believe he had isolated himself from people for several years, and he started to live in his own little world. It's sad that he had to resort to something like this... it's truly sad...

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- To be remembered is to live forever.
- It's all about perspective, try to be grateful about life.
- Love happens by accident
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kalajel 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
I can understand what you were trying to do Izzy; I've got a similar life phylosophy; "better to laugh about it than to cry about it"… but there are some things you just can't make fun of… and 32 people killed in a school shooting is one of those…

So yeah, I know what it is to be a loner in school, to be ocstrcised and treated like crap all day long just because you're not considered "cool", and I can understand that you can get really angry at times… but to act like this… Maybe I will never understand; I mean I was a white kid in a country where the majority of the population is white and I got teated like crap… it's probably even worst for kids from ethnics backgrounds…

As for the American's right to bear arms; that was put into the constitution when the country had just won its independance from England and they were afraid the British would come back to take the country back by force so needed a way to protect themselves. But nowadays, I think it's clear the British won't invade again so this amendment is outdated and needs to be removed from the constitution. But that wouldn't make the rednecks happy so they keep it in… and as a result theres 30 000 deaths by firearms in the U.S. every year…
Quoted Text kalajel said:
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Dynewind 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
( TT _ TT )
why do u guys write so much in this one?
i want to read them, but havent got the chance to....
so dont get mad...
i'll edit this post when i get the chance to


oh and he sent a package to the NBC
it contained videos and pictures of him, also notes about 22 pages....
it's weird...
and it's basically blamed the world for bad things happened to him
Israel 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
can we consider him as a terrorist?
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kalajel 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
Quoted Text Israel said:
can we consider him as a terrorist?
Nah! Terrorists fight for a cause, he was just psychotic…
Quoted Text kalajel said:
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kersheys 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
Quoted Text Dynewind said:
oh and he sent a package to the NBC
it contained videos and pictures of him, also notes about 22 pages....
it's weird...
and it's basically blamed the world for bad things happened to him

The videos and pictures I don't know what they specifically contained but the notes explained why he did it though it was rhetoric.

Victims of the massacre
Quoted Text Kinju said:
And K.H.A.W.D.? Meh! Hardly even a bother.
fuse 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
Man... so crazy. Thanks for the links guys.
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Kinju 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
"Cho left a note criticizing 'rich kids', 'debauchery' and 'deceitful charlatans...'"

Puh...leaze! How could you not have seen yourself? Selfish, arrogant little prick. You really think I would believe your "I'm doing this for others" speech? Hell no! You yourself are to blame. You wanted help to come to you but didn't seek for it. You have no guts facing the real world. You blame hedonists however it was you who was at fault...
kersheys 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
He may have been selfish when he carelessly took the lives of others but when did he say that he was doing this for others? You also have no idea what he might have gone through before the event. Where was his "I'm doing this for others" speech that you speak of? All I've heard is that he just went nuts. Period. Do not assume things.
Quoted Text Kinju said:
And K.H.A.W.D.? Meh! Hardly even a bother.
Kinju 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
I was sleepy when I wrote my last message that I felt like ranting senseless words. However, he did say he was doing it for...well...

"You have vandalized my heart, raped my soul and torched my conscience," he said into the camera, looking down occasionally to read from his manifesto. "You thought it was one pathetic boy's life you were extinguishing. Thanks to you, I die like Jesus Christ, to inspire generations of the weak and the defenseless people."

"I didn't have to do this. I could have left. I could have fled," he said. "But no, I will no longer run."

"It's not for me. For my children, for my brothers and sisters. ... I did it for them."

"You had a hundred billion chances and ways to have avoided today," he said. "But you decided to spill my blood. You forced me into a corner and gave me only one option. The decision was yours. Now you have blood on your hands that will never wash off."

"Your Mercedes wasn't enough, you brats," he said. "Your golden necklaces weren't enough you snobs. Your trust funds wasn't enough. Your vodka and cognac wasn't enough. All your debaucheries weren't enough. Those weren't enough to fulfill your hedonistic needs. You had everything."


Full story here.

He even called himself savior and inspiration for the weak?! He IS nuts. He is badly disillusioned with the things around him that he didn't realize he needed help. It's true that something horrible, something that would cross the line could shake the world to its knees. However, he killed innocent lives, people who, according to some, had no relations to this guy. He clearly missed his targets.
kersheys 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
Sounds like this guy I know on another forum.
Quoted Text Kinju said:
And K.H.A.W.D.? Meh! Hardly even a bother.
Israel 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
jesus christ was called nuts by the priest when he was preachin that hes tha son of God.

maybe he was mentally and physically abused by those filthy rich guys in that school, maybe those rich kids were bullying him, maybe his cup of patience full already, maybe that guy wants to change something, maybe he just want to send a message to all those rich kids that they shouldnt be bragging and bullyin poor kids, maybe he wasnt a loner, maybe hes classmates made him a loner, maybe he did that with a purpose, a purpose that we might not see because we cant feel what he felt.

may God bless those innocent people who got killed and may hell burn the souls of those filthy rich guys who really deserves to die!

If i was in hes shoes, i would really do that to.

please, dont judge the guy. "u need to be a killer in order to know how a killers mind works"

geez, am i like on cho's side now huh?!Crying
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Kinju 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
Maybe? Actually, even though there are already anti-discrimination laws in the US, it seems like the students there are still practicing racism. Not only that, they enforce it. It's not gonna be a wonder why people would be angry at certain groups. However, on Cho's case, he was already supposed to be admitted to a Mental Institute.
Dynewind 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
yeah!

few years before that the judge let him go from the mental institute
but telling him to see a doctor, which he didnt...

the video is weird.. full of offensive words....
oh.. how do he get the pistols?

i mean if he want more massacre he can just get a machine gun
kersheys 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
Quoted Text Dynewind said:
oh.. how do he get the pistols?

i mean if he want more massacre he can just get a machine gun

He bought the pistols.

He can't get a machine gun because pistols are easier to hide and carry around. Not to mention hell of a lot cheaper and less suspicious.
Quoted Text Kinju said:
And K.H.A.W.D.? Meh! Hardly even a bother.
Kinju 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
Yeah. Apparantly, they found a receipt or something. I think US laws should confiscate everyone with guns, and the police and military should leave their firearms in their offices...or whatever you call it. No one should handle a gun anymore for "self-defense" and if anyone should be seen with one shall be arrested on the spot.
kalajel 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
Quoted Text Kinju said:
Yeah. Apparantly, they found a receipt or something. I think US laws should confiscate everyone with guns, and the police and military should leave their firearms in their offices...or whatever you call it. No one should handle a gun anymore for "self-defense" and if anyone should be seen with one shall be arrested on the spot.
There's only one problem Kinju; that's called a fairy tale…
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Quoted Text kalajel said:
Anyhow, I beleive that the real logical conclusion to all this is that I'm so darn cool, other people want to be me on other forums!Happy

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Kinju 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
That's true... Annoyed
Dynewind 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
oh!!

he bought the guns at a store nearby... isnt that weird?
and he bought those for "self-defense"

i mean if it's defense, why 2 pistols? one should be sufficient.....
hey, if no civilians have guns, then the goverment can just control us easily Tickled Pink
Israel 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
here in our country it svery hard to get ur hands on a gun, there must be this order from the court that you should give to a gun store so that theyll allow you to purchase a gun. but then again if its done under the table, its really hard to control it.
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kalajel 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
Quoted Text Dynewind said:
i mean if it's defense, why 2 pistols? one should be sufficient.....
I think the main idea is that you carry one on you and leave one at home so your family can defend themselves while you're away… as if we lived in a post-appocalyptic, lawless world…
Don't try to reason with a gun nut… its useless (and you'll end up getting shot).
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Quoted Text kalajel said:
Anyhow, I beleive that the real logical conclusion to all this is that I'm so darn cool, other people want to be me on other forums!Happy

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kersheys 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
Also he bought them at two different times so they probably might not have noticed.
Quoted Text Kinju said:
And K.H.A.W.D.? Meh! Hardly even a bother.
kalajel 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
Quoted Text Fiducia said:
Also he bought them at two different times so they probably might not have noticed.
Yeah… that also…
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Quoted Text kalajel said:
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Israel 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
and also, i heard in a local news here that he fired more than 170 bullets in just 9 minutes, thats like a bloodbath for crying out loud. btw he shot himself while being sorrounded by his voctims, as if he doesnt know anybody there even though hes been there for a while.
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kalajel 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
Quoted Text Israel said:
and also, i heard in a local news here that he fired more than 170 bullets in just 9 minutes, thats like a bloodbath for crying out loud. btw he shot himself while being sorrounded by his voctims, as if he doesnt know anybody there even though hes been there for a while.
170 bullets? Really? 'Cauz I heard it was more along the lines of 50-ish bullets…
Quoted Text kalajel said:
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Israel 1 year 7 months ago wrote:
yup, it was 170 bullets in just 9 mins, at first they taught the guy had an auto rifle. Gloc has like 15bullets per mag ( i think). he had 2 Glocs so that would be like 30 rounds, i think he had 12 magz at that time.
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